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Posted - 2007.05.18 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Adaris First of all I would have asked the owner of the can (since he was in local) to remove it, or asked someone to blow it up for me. I am conscious I am in a ships worth a bil so I don't take risks I can't avoid.
Secondly, the system of agro timers and global criminal timers is flawed in some areas. There have been posts about these issues so I won't re-hash them here. But basically my opinion is this, you looked in the can, then tried to move the item into your hold. This is stealing. You could not take the item though after you effectively told concord you were going to take it (little warning box giving you the option to stop and do nothing) because the ship you are in could not take the item.
As a comparrison: I leave my house in the morning. Outside my house you have parked your car. Your door is open, keys in the ignition. Because you are blocking my from walking a straight line out onto the street, I decide to open the door of your car and get inside it. (You looking in the can). Now I know this isn't my car. I have no right to be inside it or even contemplate moving it (you - destroying can/taking item) but because it is causing me distress I decide to flip the ignition and drive the car out of the way of my house. (so I knew it was wrong. Accepted the risk and did it. Sound like you?) BUT then after I flipped the ignition and put the car in gear and put my foot to the peddle I realised I could not do it. I wasn't wearing any shoes and so could not keep my foot on the peddle properly for some reason. (This is your freighter not being able to loot cans), so I can't drive your car out of my way after all, and It would seem It was all for nothing.
So I get out of the car, and close the door, walk around the car and out onto the street. Just as I near the other side of the road, which is were I wish to go, I see you, the owner of the car begin to throw stones at me. The stones hurt. (you taking damage). I begin to cry and panic at this. (You freaking out and petitioning the gm) However I claim I didn't steal his car like he is saying (rights on you). He hits me in the face with a stone I cringe (you in structure) and I die/jump out. lol (Don't know if you survived, I think you did.)
So the moral of that comparrison was: you opened that can, proceeded with the action of removing his stuff into your hold and your defence is that you were not stealing. Regardless of the limitations of your ship/my foot with no shoes, you stole or 'intended to steal'.
My verdict: GUILTY
its sad you almost lost your ship, but you need to be more careful and aware of the dangers when flying monehy like that. I mean you don't fit a titan with a civi shield booster do you? Thats careless for the money you are flying.
My Advice: Think before you do when flying money. You could have framed another sucker to pop it for you, asked the owner to pop it, ask your corp if you could take it with you being in Freighter, consult Jita Local, pray, or shake you magic 8 ball for an answer. You didn't do any of this so my pitty is limited, but thats my opinion and nothing for you to worry about or refute honestly. I don't know you as a person so this isn't personal, but i think what you did was stupid.
kk enough of that. Listen mate best of luck in the future and I hope you keep what happened to you in mind for the next time. Fly Safe and remember
NEVER Autopilot.
Um, except that parking a car in front of someone's drive way is itself a criminal offense. Which is what was being done by placing a can in front of the undock point. ----
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